Menos Desorden, Más Calma - El orden Que Realmente Funciona - Gaby Saavedra : 190

¿Qué lugar de tu casa necesita urgentemente un poco de orden? Tal vez es ese clóset que ya no puedes cerrar, una cocina donde nunca parece haber suficiente espacio o ese rincón donde las cosas simplemente se van acumulando. Pero ¿y si el problema no fuera la falta de espacio, sino la manera en que lo estamos utilizando?

Gaby Saavedra, organizadora profesional, nos cuenta su historia, cómo llegó al mundo de la organización y qué ha descubierto sobre lo que realmente hay detrás del desorden. Hablamos, sobre todo, de cómo crear sistemas de organización que funcionen en la vida real y que podamos mantener incluso cuando la vida se complica.

Gabriela es venezolana, nacida en Uruguay y criada entre diferentes culturas, experiencias y lugares que despertaron en ella una gran curiosidad y sensibilidad por los pequeños detalles. Egresada en Educación, ejerció en el Colegio Humboldt de Caracas. Actualmente reside en la Ciudad de México, donde comenzó una nueva etapa en su vida y hoy canaliza su creatividad tanto en el mundo de los postres como en la organización y transformación de espacios, creando ambientes funcionales, armónicos y llenos de personalidad. 

Hablamos de algo que muchas veces se pasa por alto cuando pensamos en organización: antes de poner etiquetas, hay que escuchar y entender cómo vive realmente una persona. Porque no se trata de copiar esa despensa perfecta que vimos en Instagram. Nuestras rutinas, viajes, temporadas, familia y estilo de vida determinan cómo debería funcionar un espacio para nosotros.

Gaby explica por qué un sistema solo funciona cuando está diseñado para la persona que realmente lo va a utilizar, y cómo hacer que las cosas sean visibles, accesibles y fáciles de devolver a su lugar para mantener el orden sin sentir que estamos organizando constantemente.

También hablamos de cómo desprendernos de las cosas con menos culpa y mayor claridad, especialmente cuando se trata de regalos, objetos heredados o todas esas cosas que guardamos “por si acaso”. ¿Cuándo donar? ¿Cuándo vender? ¿Y por qué posponer esas decisiones muchas veces termina llevándonos nuevamente al mismo desorden?

Si quieres ideas realistas para despejar espacios, organizar tu clóset y crear una casa más tranquila y funcional que se adapte a tu vida, y no al revés, escúchanos y descubre "El Método de Gaby"

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Transcript

Welcome And Why Clutter Sticks

DanielaSm 0:00

Hola, soy Daniela. And if the problem not is that there is today no has encontrado a forma to organization for realmente function for team. What happens when ordenes, guardas, compres cajas and at the time will be? The disorden is also algo físico, but emotional. My invitation is Gabriela Saavedra, Venezuelan, Uruguay, educator of formation and creator of the méthode of Gabi. Conversation about the disorder, the approach to our things, why not have sufficient, and how we can create more functionalistic, harmonics, and tranquil without the perfection. I'm fascinated by Gabi is my invitation, because he is the first company of College Humboldt who plays on the podcast. I encourage reconnect with anti companies and connect what we are, not really what they were another year. And most of this together, because all we have a story to say. Disfrut of the story of Gabi. I'm very happy that we decided to be here with us for watching my story.

Gaby Saavedra 1:23

I agree for the opportunity. I am honored.

DanielaSm 1:28

I'm very honest here because we have history. You know what I'm going to talk about your new time, but I want to say what your story for my history in the sense of how you are with this new time.

Gaby Saavedra 2:24

But I had interest in my life, like for example when I was material for the kids in vacations, a little bit to the work. And I think that this was all that I was the only person who had. But I functioned. For another later, in my life, I had various, and my anxious, I had the opportunity to make the things more or how to prioritize the things to have an optimal. But really when I invited master classes of organization professional that I was fascinating. I said that this was and I investigate, learn, to buy revivals, to put in practice all that I had in my life. I started this story. And how I invited this? As I was in this list, I invited me and not. And so I said I will go to all the things that I interview. In an opportunity, I went in many masterclasses, and I was fascinating and impression of how there had the things, that the things they were of one, they doubled of a way, and this audit much to organization my space and family and among them, let me say. Exactly, that everybody had. And it was in my masterclass that negotiation that I conversed with an amigo and my sponsor and commented, I think I can dedicate this. Not doing what I have, my empresa posts, but accompany me with this negotiation because I feel fascinating. Escuchar, what I'm saying, what are your necessities in the space, how vivid this ambience quotidian, what is your routine, what is your life. Because in this manner that it's sustainable. If you orden and do like me, in a time this is disordered, because it doesn't matter to me, it doesn't matter of the person. The disorder is also physical, but emotional.

How Gaby Became An Organizer

DanielaSm 5:42

Combination with the doceness, the dulce, postres, and the order.

Gaby Saavedra 6:02

In my case, you empected the repostery, in essence, you provide and provide and provide and provide, and all my family and all my among people were in India. And I think I send Dulcitos. When I lost this and my título, one of ellos, with one of them I could ejerce, but with the other no, I said, I can see something that means but that means stay with my friends. And I think I'm dulcitos and Gabi, I'm fascinated. I mean, after the moment I'm sharing with those.

DanielaSm 6:32

What? And Gaby, how was the initial that the people for organizing?

Gaby Saavedra 6:38

After it was simply a conversation, in a remote that I said, you know, I had a problem with a closet that I have. In these times, I offered a project to the person, and this person decided to open the work because I generally have a confiance with them. There are people who connect and who hear the ports of your house to do in a space that generates conflict in any way.

DanielaSm 7:06

For example, I'm very good and I was criticated because I'm done. For me, this is a way. And I don't know. You think that you don't have a others because you see the disorder of other people, you stress how many others and the country and those are.

Gaby Saavedra 7:50

If we are conscious, we can describe it. It's the world. But at the day, or quiz after two days, you say, okay, the things in your life. And it's perfect. See existence methods. They send that difficult, okay, is that this, and because I veoed the provoca is certainly the pure because I genera stress, as you acabate, in this espacio, if no loyalty, I can use an audience, and in this audience, the person who te atiende te va a decir cómo lo puedes colocar de forma para ti. Eso es uno. But what is a depuraction? Because the gente te dice, ¿sabes qué pasa? Es que no tengo space. And no es que no tengas space, sino que tienes muchas cosas. Entonces, I can have a depuración sincera, but guiada more, for that person te ayudes a deciding what do you have to do that no teaching, but that de alguna manera las tienes ahí por si acaso or because it's culpa that me to the amiga of the amiga of the amiga, who niquiera te acuerdas cómo se llama, no. This happens because you do say, I think this, this is one thing, because un objeto gigante que no te gusta, que lo tienes guardado y dices, es que eso me lo regaló la amiga de la amiga de la amiga, who ni siquiera me acuerdo cómo se llamaba, ni siquiera in which occasion me lo regaló. Pues this is for me, no ocupe in your business, entire.

DanielaSm 9:47

For exercises, for nutritionists, one needs to use a coach for your coach, it's more important. As long as you said that I did those masterclasses, you're inviting in you of one manner or another. So it's necessary. I think you, because I said I'm ordinary, but I don't go to the house of other person to audit with a disorder. What does it manage this?

Gaby Saavedra 10:13

I don't know that I generate any type of angustia. Because when you talk about mudancia, everyone and says, I know what stress, because effectively the mudan is a duelo. But I don't know what. You investigate in the mudances and you asked, the gentleman does the thing to the gentleman in the mudances, what type of material you use, what? Entonces, give a casa and get your disorder, well, it's not, I need to get my audience, no matter what. But I have all these regions that are necessary and there are others that are negotiables. Especially, it's important for your order, disorder. If you have an disorder in which you have pieces, you don't say what's what we're going to do, but they can have to do it. Absolutely. When you have this space vacuum and all the things displayed in the quarter that you are organizing, the people normally abroad. You, because you are a lower, and before we categorize, you will tell you what, what's, what you gotta, what do you want, what uses, no uses. And so I separate. All the sices, if you're, and if you gotta, or at the gabinete, or at the space selection. And if you don't, we're gonna decide if it don't, if it regala, si it vendors. No me generation angustia, for the hour has been. And for example, Marie Kondo said, if you do

Clutter Is Physical And Emotional

Gaby Saavedra 12:20

it, it is feliz, quédate with it. That's what I hear.

DanielaSm 12:25

But there are much methods, I think that is different. So, like when we via, you average much, and a lot of people said, No, no, the vision with a maletica not, and they put the same camisa 50 years, and there was another who was the world and two maletas gigantes. And I did that has their error and ensay until your exact of enseñar to the people.

Gaby Saavedra 12:54

It's important to me with the person to escuch, because a lot of people don't escuch. So if this person said, 'If this part of the start was important in my life, I don't know if you talk.' I can't respect this. An organization said, 'You're going to take this, and you will say what I can do and I can't, but you know that this part in the other, escuch what we talk about, no talk.' So, after you have this order, probably the most segur is that this person will say, When I'm lista, I'm going to orden this. And this occurs. This occurs because really. No, no, no. Me tengo que organizar well for the ropa necessary. I have three años that I have navigated in a city of frío. Entonces, voy a botar toda my ropa de invierno porque ya passive un año. Pues no, pues no. Yo no voy a botar una botella de nieve simplemente because I've got three años that no lave. If esas botas están in buen style, funcionan, ando un espacio para colocarlas, por supuesto que las voy a usar más adelante. Me explico, entonces no puede ser todo tan rígido. Tiene que haber un espacio para la flexibilidad andar a la persona. The person who skipped all the años, but just an atuendo that we're going to voting. No, no, no, no function, it doesn't function. And the person who tried does have confiance in teaching and escuchada, for that it functions, because the organization doesn't function.

DanielaSm 15:12

But false the part emotional, the part of escuching. I mean, it's frustrating, you imagine that you have a case of that you say to the person it's not sort of, it's rough, what's your thing, and the person today is and today they do or not what you do.

Gaby Saavedra 15:33

You know that we know in the reading social igual, these closes maravillos, with all the ganchos of ropes igualita, precios, perfect, all the rows, but this is not the reality, for sure that one of the fines is that it's aesthetic, is that it's lindo, that te sient, but the process is the process is what importable. And you dictate, we will apart a moment, we're going to say what. No, para nada. No, para nada. And then when the organization does that, if there is an empack, that if there is an empacked because no visualizables, no, this occurs, then what occurred, for example, with the vestidores, is that not used because I mean me gusta, or creo que no me gusta bien. And so pruebatelo, it's good, but there falthen two buttons. It's very simple. Cosa buttons for you to use, this is one that occurs. And the other is, for example, take a look, but not contigo, because you're in one of the life, you can see, because you can, because you used this color, you can see it. But I wonder the client has alguien conocido that you had an experience. I had a bolsa spectacular, very cost, but I was guarding. And there was a day that one of my friends had. What's more than alguien that you connect and who gives? So this is dentro of the organization of space. Don't regalo to alguien who connects, who quiero, but then vendo, you the other day left the ejemplo a member who said, 'You're not saying the zapato,' bueno, es que explícame cómo un zapato de Jimmy Chu lo vas a donar, lo vas a donar a quién? Es complicado, yo creo que se lo tienes que vender. Ah, no, pero es que me van a dar poco, era venezolana, entonces me dijo tres lochas, me hagan tres lochas por él. Yo digo, bueno, piensa, ¿qué quieres? ¿Las tres lochas o que sigas ocupando un espacio que te fastidie en tu closet? Que no te permite comprar otra cosa because no tienes espacio. Piensa, ¿qué te beneficia más? Y ahorita, ahorita está como de moda, the second hand, no? Siempre hay espacio para vender andar, esas, incluso esas ventas, what you received, si no lo quieres former, pues donde institutions, there are much many of a lot, no.

DanielaSm 18:45

And when you have those courses or all that has learned, what was one that I was?

Gaby Saavedra 18:54

No, but I llamed the attention in the library of Maricondo, for example, that means what we've done is that we are Latinos, and how we are different, how we differentiate from others in the world. It was, for example, in the case of the papers, that for what you guys want the ticket that they do in a company. This ticket doesn't go to your car, they can voter. The recipe. Exactly. The other thing, for example, is that there are many manas of doubling the ropa. For sure, if you have a vestibor gigante, no problem with any of the methods. But when you have a decision. So the method, for example, of Maricondo, personally, to doubling me to. So for me, this is the idea. In general, I appreciate many techniques that are interesting, and I enter that,

Flexible Systems For Real Life

Gaby Saavedra 20:10

I don't use. If you don't know the scene, probably two days, the new cafe, or have two in paquet and I entered. The loose that I've got, not, me encanta, no lay, but no lay, no lay, no?

DanielaSm 20:33

Ella said that the calcetines can be jumped. You say, but it's practical, it's all in an order, okay? You try to, but it's difficult.

Gaby Saavedra 20:44

You have a conflict with this. It's that the elastic vencing, and it's the first time. It's why I impact not to have the méthode maricondo, because I think that this type of ropa they have to camp with more frequency. So I can see the famous for this deport. But the deportives. When I'm my social Instagram, method Gabi.mx. You public all the organization and in the history voyage desglossing point by point. For example, after I had an organization of this, and the process is large really. And when you see in video, you said, it's eternal. But really, no, it's eternal, but there are much details that I can. And I'm offering all these presentations that are mixed, because I do a presentation about what I do, but I offer a refrigerator that is. So I have this mix, it's a book to work. Really I am because I'm the family, I enter in your house and I'm a display, I would say, the reference, but I'm a discipline, and I have to generate confiance for that. We can offer courses, courses of double, for example, which is something that the people cuesta, because one is that you put the pure cocina, and other things is that you put the pure casa for entry in your vestimer. This is one thing.

DanielaSm 23:00

For example, I have a closet lesson of mantelles. And I use the one, but no puzzle, because I think, and if one day we're regalated alguien. What does this?

Gaby Saavedra 23:12

Primero I can say, revisar two. Tienes que darlo. This is to have it. And I would say if you have a mantel in this closet that you did and you don't use, it's for me, it's for others. Then with your comportment measures that I don't want to.

DanielaSm 23:57

But today I have more mantelles and mesas.

Gaby Saavedra 24:01

I mean I wanted to put mesas. I encourage, I mean. But you had degustations in dulcitos, so apart my crisis, apart, you had three palettes for pastel. And you think you have to have three palettes for pastel? And they said, I can see the thumb, but no, it's a spaces. Nothing, this is one thing. You need to organise those and depurp those, two days a year. It's too much. So at the same time, no pues, it's very abroad for all the people. So empieza, and when you terminate, decide, and selection the other space and get the same. It's the same comportment that you have to have a space in order, but you can have voluntary for that. So you need to say that this depends on me, this depends on the client, I have a problem. I have a closet of mantelles and I don't deputy. So I need a you know. But the closet, in your closet, perfectly this I used, what I used, this I wanted, this I wanted.

DanielaSm 25:16

And yeah, see, and I invited my house, and I imagine that I invited much among people, and then you are observing what I have.

Gaby Saavedra 25:26

It was recently. But you say, I don't stay here for juzgers, you are here for a respect since you're not. No, but if you invit me also to come.

DanielaSm 25:45

The gentleman is consciente because it's ordinary, so you can start, no, the people are nervous.

Gaby Saavedra 25:53

No, no, it's a conversation, this is happening. I'm gonna say, okay, fíjate, I'm this. It's a conversation and you divert. You say that person who sort of juzgadas, not you, because it's the idea, all the contrary. The idea is to be.

Sell Donate Then Act Fast

Gaby Saavedra 29:26

Claro, and I'm done with brincos in the cousin, the band, the comedor, and the sala. And we're going to selection what was here, the tamaos. And so you push for tamas, other thousand, other tamay, and we colour the spaces that are at my. File no is, it's a process, it's you can have the voluntarily. But hasta que tú no haces ese, ¿sabes? No, no quiero entrar at my casa and that all the things me van a cause encima. Depends de tu voluntad, créeme.

DanielaSm 30:39

And what was it? For example, the maletero, donde metiste las maletas.

Gaby Saavedra 30:44

Ah, well, you have a space, I have a cure for my, but like you said, my hijas no vivences. Obviously, for that occurrence, this is impeccable, no vascular sucias dentro. And it's the decision, because I'm gonna say that the cases were rich, no? Obviously, when the cases are in the maletero, they were a bit like sucious human, no? So, when you have much control of the space, I'm limping. Starting in the vestidor of my problem, no molest. But one of the, for example, dándole la vuelta, because I have one comment, that's a comport that repite much, and it's you puedes tener la voluntad and say, no, it's definitively this closet, you tengo que dar la vuelta, lo tengo que arreglar. Entonces vas a unos bazares maravillosos o vas a unas tiendas espectaculares and empiezas a comprar cajas, contenedores y demás, porque tú vas a organizar. And that después esas cajas, esos contenedores are demasiado grandes o demasiado pequeños para lo que necesitas. Entonces, la gente suele seguir comprando. And no se trata de eso, se trata de ver qué tengo, con qué me quedo, and no, the case that I entered here no is established, it's others, because the media no sees. But if you decides to argue a space and a pure and guard, there's two options. This is don't say that it's interesting, but at the final, you think, uh-huh, and what I don't know if they lasso ofre, but obviously eres tú el que decide qué vas a hacer con tus cosas. Entonces, lo que se observa mucho is que si la acción no es inmediata, es decir, mañana mismo voy a la iglesia a llevar estas bolsas para donar, entonces la semana que viene vas a abrir una bolsa y decís, ya va, espérate. Pero esa blusita, yo creo que sí me sirve y me la puedo poner para la próxima comida que me invitaron in el mes de junio. No, pero toma la decisión radical y toma la acción. Porque eso ocurre. Es más grave cuando no tienes el espacio. Porque entonces luego tienes en tu casa, como se dice en el sur, un chiquero, ¿no? Ah, no, porque lo voy a guardar por si acaso, y esto también que está roto, pero si le sacas el tornillo, entonces puede ser que te sirva. No, no.

unknown 33:52

No.

Gaby Saavedra 33:56

Pero es una blusa tan buena que le dan la vuelta, y le dan la vuelta, y le dan la vuelta. ¿Sabes qué puedes hacer? Sácale allá, porque los botones are in buy, and you can guard the bottom dentro de tus costuras. Entonces, sí, sácala y votas esa camisa, this is an option. There are forces that you can do in that case in particular. I can see the things, like, a solo dolor, yeah, of one. But no te has arrepentido, no te has arrepentido of the things that has done? No, the verdict, but I send me that I'm sorry, because I have much among people who have kids who study, I said, Ay, no, that this quarter looks horrible, when they're not a problem. Obviously, if you're two semanas, they don't recognize them. No, obviously not. But I think, but I've got to my friends had vestibus spectacular, because they're in Latin America, they still have a lot of people, but when they living already, what are they doing? So I saw photos. What do you want to do, my kids? And I responded, I don't know. And the other, ah, this vendor, ah, mamma, yeah, regal to Fulana, you can see it. And I was this, no, I read when I was my family, I had lives in Spanish, in Aleman, in English, and the rollout of what I do with the lives in aleman, for you, okay, because in English it's more fashion, no? In Spanyol, obviously. And I said, Gordon, I have all of this, I don't know what it is. And I said, Fíjate, ella me dio la idea, you not see. And I said, Mamma, this maestro who did classes of grammatics, I don't know what. Well, I screwed from Fulana, me, Loriana, me interesa, I don't know what. I give. And they live at the end of the story, it's the problem. So I think that the things are in good way, I've got to have a second opportunity. The planet will agree, cream.

DanielaSm 36:24

You say that the generation of our people are very active in this thing vintage,

Let Go Of The Perfect Home

DanielaSm 36:30

the things anti, the things used. I wonder that in my quarter I had a mantle remote, and my wife said, Oh, vent, and we're gonna buy a matter, I don't know what, and put my mantle, it's the message. But when you're in North America, you give this, and you went to the Walmart, I said this story because for me that my wife and I told you that they have things. This is one that I feel important. I had a memory in the car, I don't need muebles, but I saw potential and I said, 'Dey, I'm gonna get this,' and I've been asking, I feel so nice, and I got the pants because they were horrible. I wanted to be creative in this style, but I'm with you that when one side, and as you said, the one is the tesorous of others.

Gaby Saavedra 37:32

I don't know a person who's a man spectacular, has actions social with his daughter all the time of seminary. He records and necessities and the chat, the pure, you can see ropa for being homes, or there are. And me parece fantastic.

DanielaSm 38:03

Well, there's a little bit of what is saying the seven, because the specifically and then photos, what you have, that just functioned, Gabby, obviously we can learn for hours. Is there something that is important to compare after this episode?

Gaby Saavedra 38:27

I want to romper with this paradigm that the order is rare, that you don't have, that you have. It's a paradigm that we can romper. We have simply voluntarily for this, necessitarian, and the people that it's rare because publicities in which all the cotecitos are equal to, in which there are dispenses gigantic, maravillosas, and all these ganchos of ropes new, spectacular. And actualization of this space. You can use what in the future we have to do. And if you brumas, contrat a specialist that you ayudes. And nuevamente, no que no we have space, it's that we have much. And the orden is a herramient that we ayuda to vivid more.

DanielaSm 39:25

And those, one of invertir in one, and ayuda, and those necesites discipline, okay, it's the ejercicio, the salute, appreciate cual. One necessita discipline and what you're saying. Well, Gaby, much for my podcast and compared your history with it. No, a ti. Much éxito in your aventura. Muchísimas gracias. And voy a aprender de ti, por supuesto.

Gaby Saavedra 39:59

Ay, no, estoy a la hora, te agradezco infinitamente, me sentí muy honrada de estar en tu espacio. Muchísimas gracias.

DanielaSm 40:04

Y toda la información va a estar en las notas del episodio, así que quienes quieren seguirte, conocerte mejor o ponerse en contacto contigo podrán encontrarte fácilmente. Perfecto. Bueno, estoy muy contenta, la verdad. Muchísimas gracias. De nada, gracias a ti. La conversación con Gaby nos recuerda que muchas veces no necesitamos más espacio, sino entender mejor lo que tenemos y cómo queremos vivir. Organizar también decidir, dejar ir, cuestionar aquello que guardamos por si acaso. Y crear sistemas que funcionen para nuestra vida real, no para la casa perfecta que vemos en la fotografía. Y si conoces a alguien que siente que su casa le está quedando pequeña, comparte este episodio. Gracias por escuchar. Hasta pronto.