The Life bump that changed everything - Natalie Bouchard : 184

You can do all the “right” personal growth work and still feel like you’re dragging yourself through midlife. Natalie Bouchard, TEDx speaker, former competitive athlete, founder of Harmonize With Life, and creator of the Cohesion Architecture method,  helps high-achieving women reconnect to their center and natural authority. After years immersed in healing, mindset, and personal growth work, she began questioning everything she thought success, healing, and self-development were supposed to look like.

After years of mindset work, manifestation, coaching, and personal development, Natalie realized she had been quietly disconnecting from her own inner authority while trying to fix herself. In this conversation, she shares how burnout, breakdowns, relationship patterns, and major life collapses eventually pushed her to what she calls “returning to center.”

We explore nervous system safety, self-trust, emotional triggers, and the difference between true growth and constantly searching for relief. Natalie also explains why so many high-achieving women still feel unstable underneath their success, and how learning to stay with yourself, instead of abandoning yourself in difficult moments, can completely change the way you move through life.

This episode is a deep conversation about healing, intuition, women’s leadership, relationships, and what happens when you stop trying to force your way out of discomfort and start listening to your own knowing instead.

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Transcript

DanielaSm 0:00

Hi, I'm Danina. What if the struggles we tried so hard to avoid are actually trying to guide us back towards death?

Meet Natalie Bouchard

Natalie Bouchard 0:08

Is can you be with what is without making it wrong, bad, blame, resent, following everyone, but you're not following your own voice. Life bumps into you, shows you where you're not centered, how to stay with the things that are going on in your life, how to hold it, how to let the intelligence get stronger. M

DanielaSm 0:33

My guest is Natalie Bouchard, TEDx speaker, former competitive athlete, founder of Harmonize with Life, and creator of the Cohesion Architecture Method. Let's enjoy her story. Welcome, Natalie. I'm so excited to have you here.

Natalie Bouchard 0:48

Oh, I'm so glad to be here. We're gonna have a juicy conversation today.

DanielaSm 0:52

Yes, yes, yes. So tell me, why do you want to share your story?

Natalie Bouchard 0:56

The reason why I want to share my story is because I feel that there's a lot of women that have done a lot of mindset healing therapy. They've done all the things, they're in midlife, things feel heavy, what's going on? I feel that my story really sheds light on something that I came across that had I not come across, I would have still been stuck in the loop of healing and mindset and all of the different things. I really wish I would have known. I, you know, I spent $700,000, worked with the best minds around the world. I don't regret any anything pushing me further and further away from who I am in my own center. Meanwhile, here I'm calling it growth. Well, guess what, Natalie? You weren't growing, you're avoiding your own path.

DanielaSm 1:44

Wow. Well, it sounds super interesting. I can't wait to learn something because maybe I'm the one who has to now regret that I should have learned this 20 years ago. So when does your story start?

Corporate Success Meets A Breaking Point

Natalie Bouchard 1:55

The story started probably. I mean, my story started when I was born. I mean, I've had quite the story in my own life. Yeah, yeah. That's when that happens. I'll be honest with you. Life definitely uh molded me in a way where I was able to, that's why I call myself a cohesion architect. Whenever there were bumps in my life, challenges in my life, things that were going on, I would always question things that were deeper behind it. I I grew up in a challenging home. And I left that home though. You know, some women might oppress, some women become fighters, survivors. And I was that one. I moved to Toronto and then I made it pretty big in the corporate world. And I was a top executive, and my body was starting to fail. I was a bad binge eater, and I just felt very empty. But I kept convincing myself, well, look at me, I'm pretty successful, you know. Yeah, look at I I mean, I've achieved everything that I said I would achieve. Like, look at me, you know. Yes, that's that's what society says. I had a breakdown in front of my daughters. Yeah. Right in front, and I remember, you know, looking at the ground and couldn't breathe. And I see these 10 little toes in front of me, and I'm like, and I kept telling myself in my head, I'm like a fucked up mom. And I kept repeating it. That's how the nasty my voices were. You know, you're only loved if you you achieve things. So keep achieving, keep achieving to the point where I broke down. And so that's when I went on a journey. That was 10 years ago, and I went on a journey, well, 11, and I went on a journey of deepest dives, of mindset, manifestation. I was in Bob Proctor's inner circle. He was in the movie The Secret, and I was one of his consultants. Name it, I have done it. I have studied it, I have moved through it, I have manifested incredible things, and I was teaching it as well. And everybody goes through this. You know, you you either stay in the circumstance and stay a victim, or you're like, okay, I broke down, my body's breaking down, my health is getting worse. Am I going to do something about it? And we do. We move into mindset, we move into this. I am going to create something with my life. I'm in control of my life, you know, and especially for us control freaks, we're like, oh, great. Let's control even more. Yes. And that's what ended up happening. I mean, and so I attracted the right people to show me where I was compensating for not being centered within myself. They're very challenging relationships, but all relationships are sacred. They're showing you where you abandon yourself. Until you become cohesive, return to center, then you are whole, so you are not looking for safety anymore. You're not looking for safety for work, money, partners, people. Like we don't realize it that that's what's happening. Your whole system's in survival because you're not centered within yourself. So now your whole system is looking for whatever will keep you safe while you're not centered. Then I got to a point where everything was falling apart. All the things that were my worst nightmare happen at once. Yeah.

DanielaSm 4:55

Do you decide okay, I have to get better? So you went into all these courses and you finished one. And do you feel like, okay, well, I have learned this and I'm gonna apply it, or you keep learning without applying? How how how was that? No, no, I I embodied everything.

Natalie Bouchard 5:10

Okay. I mean, I manifested, I created a lot of things, but they still not you cannot create a life that is true for you while trying to escape the one you're in. Okay. Well, it sounds complicated. And most people are, right? They they get into health issues and then they're like, I don't want this. So that's what's influencing their next move. So they're trying to create, you can't create a life that's true until you accept the path that you're on is your path. You don't want to abandon your path. We have a society that's constantly abandoning their bodies. They're like, oh, something's happening to my body, so it must mean I'm aging, must mean this. That's abandoning. We create stories, we create meaning, we create all kinds of a way out of it. I gained weight. Oh my God, I don't want to be here anymore. So now from that energy, we're trying to find a way out.

DanielaSm 6:01

Okay, but so I gain weight and I start what? Oh, I'm gonna be on a diet. Is that a way out? Or or what is it that you suggest that we're supposed to do that is the right thing?

Natalie Bouchard 6:11

Yeah, so the the thing that I want to share is that the first step is can you be with what is without making it wrong, bad, blame, resent, or anything like that. Can we be with it and feel it and hold it? Most of us can't hold it. And that's what I recognize with me is that every time things and bumps would happen in my life, I would escape it, leave it, I wouldn't stay with it. I couldn't. So I would go get another methodology. But that divine energy, that that life force energy is found in the moment, not in you escaping the moment. So even if I go meditate, I'm still escaping what's going on.

DanielaSm 6:55

So if I go back to the example, which I think is simple, that okay, wait, let's go to a diet, start doing exercise more. What you're suggesting is that it's just like, okay, this is what's happening to me. I I have I'm feeling this way, I do not like that. Is that to reflect for a time? Yeah, it's like allowing yourself to observe yourself in it.

Natalie Bouchard 7:15

Say less than 5% of the population has the ability to observe themselves in it. Have you ever had a situation, let's say, with your husband or job or something, and you say something and you actually see yourself saying the thing. Oh, I see.

DanielaSm 7:28

Yes.

Natalie Bouchard 7:28

You're actually observing yourself while you're talking in a certain tone. Okay. So that's you observing yourself in it. When you fully observe yourself in it and you see yourself clearly in it, guess what happens after you start to let go naturally of things that don't serve you anymore.

DanielaSm 7:45

I I heard this today that it something like that calls metacognition, that you actually like reflect on what you're thinking and feeling. Is that what you mean?

Natalie Bouchard 7:55

Yeah, it's reflecting on being with in the moment when things happen. And that's why I always say like the perfect example is like when there's bumps in your life, things challenges, because that really shows you who you are. I know we don't like to think that that's who we are, but how you show up in your life while your life is not going your way shows who you are in that moment. It's not when everything's perfect that that's who you are. We'd love to think that that's who we are, but that's not who we are. It's when things are unstable. It's not to say, oh, we're doing something wrong. It's just revealing something, but can we stay with the reveal? Can we hold the reveal? Can we be with it without making a story about it before we've even experienced anything?

DanielaSm 8:38

I like what you're saying. You keep doing all the modalities, and what happened next?

Natalie Bouchard 8:42

Yeah, I kept doing it. I have 12 healing designations, mindset designations. I've studied quantum physics, ancient wisdom. I mean, uh, name it, I've done it because it is my path. It is part of my path. It doesn't have to be your path, by the way, to return to center. That's the whole idea. That's what my message is. No, you don't have like a lot of people think that, oh, well, that's just the way it is. You have to learn all of these things in order to find yourself. And I'm like, God, no, not at all.

DanielaSm 9:11

Yeah, that was your path. You were doing a your corporate job while you were learning all these and practicing as well.

Staying With What Is

Natalie Bouchard 9:16

No, no, I hadn't left. I was a Bob Proctor consultant, so I had left corporate and then started my own business, basically facilitating Bob Proctor's methodologies. That's where I started, and then it just went into like I got into really heavy into healing and and quantum physics and just all of the things. I just got so curious. And what was really fascinating to me though, that with everything that I've studied, there's this one simple principle, this foundational thing that all human beings are experiencing. And it's this is that we don't even realize that we abandon our center, we abandon ourselves. And we don't even know what abandoning ourselves mean. Because there's so many stories around what abandoning yourself actually is. But truly, at the foundation of all of this, we humans don't know how to stay with ourselves when things happen in our lives, especially bumps. We don't know how to stay with ourselves. We're abandoning ourselves immediately. This means something bad about me. This means something is wrong, something needs to be fixed. I gotta, I gotta, I need another designation. So isn't it funny that I studied all of these designations thinking I'll get closer to myself? Meanwhile, I was using them as buffers to move further away from myself because I couldn't be. I didn't know how to be with myself. And most people, the first step is recognizing that most don't know how to stay with themselves. And you'll know because if your husband triggers you, how do you react or do you stay with yourself? Because he didn't go into your body and triggered your body, you triggered you. So who is you triggering you? What's happening in that moment? What is trying to surface? We don't know how to be with ourselves, so we we that's abandonment. There's so much power and energy in staying in the moment with yourself and not abandoning yourself. Your evolution reorganizes you for you, and it's and it's the most incredible thing I've ever seen. So with everything that I've studied, I'm like, oh my God, this whole time we just needed to learn how to stay when there's bumps in our lives and how to hold it. And when we hold it, we're naturally reorganized towards center, towards ourselves. And then that unlocks life force that moves through us, new ideas, new possibilities, new vistas, vitality, radiance, really that simple.

DanielaSm 11:51

And that that must be also hard for you working in the corporate world.

Natalie Bouchard 11:55

Yeah, but what happened in the corporate world is that when I moved back into center and I started letting go, like there's a lot of things that I'm like, I started letting go. And the I tell I and I shared this in my TED talk when I was teaching human bumps. And I was like, because human bumps guide us towards natural success in life. But most of us don't know how to follow that rhythm, that that power, that energy. I was um sharing with them that the same men that I was convinced were creating inequality for me. They were the reason why I couldn't make quota. Those same men, when I returned to center and started expressing from a whole different energy, they wanted to see me succeed. Because of that, in six months, my six-figure income had doubled. Six-figure income doubled in six months. And so this is what we don't realize, and we wrap ourselves up in these stories, and then we create our world around these stories, and then we say, see, I'm right, but I got tired of being right because I didn't want that reality, I didn't want that life. And I was so happy when I shifted that. And I was no longer right about my health, that it my body has fallen apart, that I was no longer right that the business and my money and that meeting quota was hard because of the inequality. And I'm glad that I wasn't right about my relationships with my kids and all of the different things. I'm glad I wasn't right. One day I woke up and I'm like, I don't want to be right about all of this anymore. These are all things that I inherited from my ancestors. I'm done. I don't want to live their life. I want to live mine. And so when I started shifting back to center and these things started to open up, well, of course, now I'm like, wow.

DanielaSm 13:37

While you were working in corporate, you you went into center, but then you decided to quit? Well, yeah.

Listening To Your Own Knowing

Natalie Bouchard 13:43

When I returned to center, I went from over 200 pounds in my pregnancies to third place on world stage as a professional fitness athlete, published in all kinds of magazines. Okay. That was like incredible. And then on top of it, at the same time, everything had shifted in corporate, and now I had doubled my income. So a lot of people would have thought, well, how could you have time to be an athlete and a top corporate person and being a mom and you know what I mean? All of those things. And I'm like, honestly, I didn't carry any of it. It flowed so well. Now, you know, when you connect the dots looking backwards, the following year, things had started collapsing. And because now I was competing, the the my old ways of like I was moving out of center again. Like I had left corporate that year because like everything was opening up, and I was like, oh my God, if I can create all of the success for this company, I mean could I create for myself? And so that's when I was like, okay, I'm gonna partner with Bob. I'm gonna start teaching mindset and all these different things and manifestation. And that's kind of how that started. And then I was manifesting and teaching all the things, and then that's when it like collapsed after that, and I moved out of center. And I really thought it was like, oh, what's wrong with my mindset and my manifestation techniques? Maybe that's what's failing. No, it was not, it was nothing about that. None of it was like that. It wasn't even about that. That's not what was bringing me success. What was bringing me success is my full participation with life that brought me back to center. And when I returned to center, things unlocked and opened up. And the minute I move out of center, oh my God, everything fell apart again. And it was like, ah, and at the time I didn't, I didn't know. I was like, what is wrong with me? I know all that I know. Why are things collapsing? Why is this happening? And it got really dark for me. It got extremely dark. And I remember being in the mirror and I was just screaming like I was just like screaming in the pillow because I had so much of this anger it coming through me, right? Sacred anger. But it was scaring me, the amount of anger. So I was screaming in a pillow to let that energy out. When I looked in the mirror the next day, it was interesting because I it's like a part of me, this inner knowing, this who I am. I asked the question, like, what is all of this? Why is this happening? You know? And the answer came through very, very clear. And it was, you're following everyone, but you're not following your own voice, not following your knowing. We know there's a knowing inside of us that says, yes, no, go, signal. It has we it's all in us, but we override it. And then we're like, ah, but what if it's not true? What if it's wrong? What if it's that's the abandonment piece. And then we go out there and then we seek spirituality, all these other things, and it's like spirituality in you is already trying to speak to you, and we're like abandoning it and questioning it. And then I go hire this coach and this coach because they have great results, so they must know more than my own knowing.

DanielaSm 16:40

Yes, I know. I know I that we do have all the answers, and we just get confused because you know, we hear, oh, you could listen to this, do that, like where all the modalities that you said sound amazing. And I've met people that do each of them, and I'm always thinking, wow, if I just knew that, or if I just talked to them, I would know more, right? I will be, I will have the answers. Exactly.

Natalie Bouchard 17:05

And really, you their answers are not yours. Really, all you're doing is learning someone else's modality. That's their path, that's not yours. You're here for your path, not their path. Why are you studying their path while you're off your path? And that's what I'm all about. I want to bring women back to their path because the only thing that that women need, because the knowing is already there, the intelligence is already there, it's not knowing how to stay on their path, how to stay with the things that are going on in your life, how to hold it, how to let the intelligence get stronger. And so, how do you move with that intelligence while you're in fear without things collapsing, right? And this is what I want to teach because once you know that, you're set for life. Like I had a client say to me the other day, you're the coach that's gonna end all coaches. And I'm like, because I'm not a coach. Yes, I'm a cohesion architect. I'd help people and architect as in because I you know the reason people are like, why do you use the word architect? I'm like, well, because like if you picture like a bridge, reality is always gonna test that bridge. And so you better follow the laws of nature and reality, otherwise it's not gonna work, it's gonna fall apart. And so that's why I call myself an architect because I ensure that you're all following the power that's inside of you. Because once you do that, you your bridges that you're building, life that you're building, will be solid. It can't not not be solid. Or lives are not solid. Mine wasn't solid and everything collapsed. Um and it needed to be that extreme because I was that stubborn. Okay, there was a lot of whispers. Like life was like, Natalie, okay, no, no, no, don't go making that choice. Don't go be doing that. Like you're off-center again. You're you don't have discernment again. And I kept doing it and doing it and doing it, and I got so off-centered that yeah, of course, the bridge reality tested it and everything collapsed because it wasn't mine, it wasn't me.

DanielaSm 19:03

It seems difficult to stay centered then. You went in there and then came out. So are you always now in center or sometimes you come off?

Natalie Bouchard 19:10

Well, centered just means you don't abandon yourself in the moment. You stay with your knowing, you stay with your truth, you stay with what is. Like the minute I blame the husband for what's going on in my life, I've I've left myself. So I abandoned myself. We don't know as women how to stay with ourselves because for hundreds and thousands of years, we were taught to revolve other around other people, revolve around the kids, revolve around the husband, revolve around people. We were not taught to anchor into ourselves and to follow that wisdom. It's a very, there's this intelligence that moves through women. Like, think about it, souls don't come to this planet without moving through the a woman. So there's a lot of intelligence, there's a lot of power that moves through women. And a lot of us know this and but we don't know how to stay with it. Returning to center for me, the practice, the work is how to stay. How do you stay with the body? How do you stay with the relationship? How do you stay with the moments and allow them to reorganize you naturally and open up new vistas for you? Because evolution is always for your greater expansion, it's always for something bigger and better for you. But most of us are fighting our own evolution, we don't even know it. Resistance, like all of us, have to realize that the the things that you're resisting, you're resisting your own evolution. The things you get frustrated with in that moment, you're resisting where life is pulling you next. That's really what it is. So you're fighting your own evolution, you're fighting something that is trying to call your name, pull you towards it.

DanielaSm 20:50

And so what do you do? Like you just sit and feel the feeling?

Natalie Bouchard 20:54

Well, the steps that I teach now, number one, to return to center is to recognize that life bumps into you, shows you where you're not centered, so that you let go of the things that you've adopted so that you return to center. So that's phase one. And once you return to center, then you need to build containment to hold the center because then you you keep moving out of it. And so now your nervous system needs to build um the capacity and the staying energy to stay with things. Because a lot of us we react. The minute things don't go well. I mean, you see people in traffic all day long losing their freaking shit. Their level of containment is very, very, very weak. And so the moment you can stay contained, then your orientation comes back online. And that's the true intuition that is in all women. And this is really powerful because then women are like, I know who I am, I know my position, I know where I'm going. I don't need advice. I don't need any. I will participate with other because everybody has different gifts, right? In the world. I will participate and collaborate with all these other gifts, but I'm leading my life. It's a different energy, right? And then the authority recedes. And when your authority recedes, that is like true power. So it's a it's a process, but that is the true work for a woman that is like, I really want to live in a fully awakened state and be whole and self-actualize and so on. Well, that is truly the path for women, but don't follow the masculine path. A lot of us women are trying to awaken using a lot of the methodologies that um men are using. Well, men don't have the same history as women, and men don't give birth to babies, you know. Like there's a biology, there's a lot that is very different. So it's just in recognizing that as well.

DanielaSm 23:03

Coming from the corporate world, you're not holistic at all. So I don't know if you were holistic before, but when you did all these modalities, the gene keys, like it was it for you something new, or you were always being, you know, corporate, but also very holistic.

Natalie Bouchard 23:18

Yeah, I love that you m asked this question because so back in school, I wasn't really good at math. I wasn't good at like numbers, I wasn't good at anything really business or anything like that. I was when it came to psychology, sociology, those sort of things, I just I didn't even barely need to read it. The teacher would be like asking me questions. And but here's the thing we're taught in school, focus on the things you're weak at. So I had tutors, everybody's trying to teach me, you know, all the different things, and my focus was math and focus on finance. And next thing you know, I um I did. I wanted to go into psychology, and no, I ended up going into business, not following my center. It is the path of living off center for me most of my life, and then coming back to it and then creating incredible things and then moving out of it again. And that's why that is my path to teach other women what center means, how to return to it, how to hold it, how to be there and create that magic that a lot of us women know that is in us to we do. We have this desire to live something inside of us that wants to be expressed, that wants to share, you know, and be an impact. When we allow that part of us to express and to be what it wants to be, then yeah, it's incredible what women can create. But most women have to see first, though, that life through the bumps, through your, yes, your husband is helping you return to center, by the way, with all of this frustrating things, or the kids are helping you return to center. It look it looks like they're not. It looks like they're setting you back, but they're not actually. All of those difficult relationships are actually, if you can just picture it's life showing you where you're abandoning yourself so that you can let go of the ways that have you keep abandoning yourself, so you let go of those habits, beliefs, ideas, perspectives that have you abandoning yourself. And then when you return to center and really hold that moment, that intelligence, that energy starts to reorganize you naturally. And it's funny because we we want to so much experience that that we study it instead of being in it, and that's what I want. I want women to experience it because in my words, you will not understand it until you're actually living it, all of you. Like you're only gonna understand five percent of what I'm sharing here. This is why, again, something in you knows and gets pulled by it or doesn't, and that's the knowing you want to follow.

DanielaSm 26:04

I know that you mentioned before that you got divorced. When that happens, was it while you were studying all these modalities when you were into center or not? No, the divorce happened before I left corporate. How that painful situation returned you to center.

Natalie Bouchard 26:19

Well, I wasn't centered when it came to relationships. That that only happened uh quite recently, actually. Like I had to experience a lot more. Honestly, the divorce came from I just don't want to deal with this anymore. And be honest, that's not centered energy. Uh, a lot of the women I work with actually, a lot of a lot of them have thought of divorce. And when they start, because I tell them don't make that kind of don't make any kind of choices in the physical reality. Like in the job, the boss, the husband, the all of that, do not make those choices until you return to center. Because once you return to center, things start to reorganize naturally anyway. And you don't you don't make the same choices. You just don't. It's it's very, very different. We have to see that a lot of us are divorcing because we want relief. But you're not getting relief because what ended up happening, I attracted a relationship that showed me where I abandoned myself, just like my my ex-husband was showing me where I was abandoning myself, but I didn't want to see it. I just want a relief. Okay. I didn't want to see it anymore because it was getting louder and louder and louder, and I didn't want to see it anymore. I didn't want I didn't know that it was life. It's not my ex-husband bumping into me. It was life bumping into me and saying, you keep abandoning yourself in relationships. You keep becoming who they want you to become. And then you lose yourself completely. And then you get angry at them for it. And then you break up with them, and then next, the next, like, at what point? And so that's why that intelligence, that wisdom that I've learned, I share that now with the the women I work with. And I'm like, just return to center first. Don't don't do the job change, don't do all of these different changes, don't do that first because that's just you exiting. Aren't you done doing that? Because I'm gonna tell you right now, you could leave the boss, you can leave the relationship, you're going to attract it again. Life's like, hello, I know. I'm just gonna send you the same person, but in a different body.

DanielaSm 28:14

One of my aunts was a bit of a bully to me. Every job I had, I had one aunt in there. And I keep saying, Why should you keep showing up? And then I don't know what I did, which I guess uh, and then I haven't seen it for a while now. You know, like I don't have an explanation. Maybe that's what you said you'll return to center, but it's still very uh um subjective your concept, so it's difficult to to to understand it.

Natalie Bouchard 28:40

I think that you well, the thing is that you're trying to understand it in your mind, and I'm here to help you activate the knowing that knows that you have been ignoring your entire life. I'm here to activate that one, but you want me to explain to your mind how this works, and I don't want to talk to your mind. I want to talk to your knowing, to the heart of you, to the soul of you, that part of you that we keep ignoring, us women, we have to admit we keep ignoring it. We know we fucking know things and we keep ignoring it. And no, your mind doesn't know your path. That's the thing. Your mind can understand something and tell you, hey, let's do this. Great. Do you know what that is? That's just rebuilding a house with the same bricks of the last thing that you built. That's what your mind does. But there's something inside of you that is beyond your mind that if you can trust it and allow it, like the people that work with me are like, I don't know why I'm working with you, but I know that I need to because there's something inside of you that I just know it uh activates something in me, and I want it to keep activating, and that's what they're doing. But if you all of you, I'm not gonna talk to your minds. You there's enough mindset coaches, there's enough uh modality coaches, there's enough of them speaking to your mind and pulling people in that way. I am here to pull the women that are ready to listen to their knowing, not their heads.

DanielaSm 30:04

So you're Matisse background, right? And so ha has that influenced you as well the way you are and the way you do this?

Natalie Bouchard 30:11

Well, not really, because I I wasn't exposed to it at all. I feel that genetically, something deep within every cell, but I I really believe that all women, there's something with us when we return to nature, and there's something that starts to shift in women when things bump into you. Create space, go for a walk, go sit in nature, and just be with it. In that space, you start letting go of things.

DanielaSm 30:36

Natalie, I I don't think I have the whole story. You started to do these modalities, you decided to quit your job and started to do your own business. And then when was the point where you decided or or or that you figured out to be always in center?

Natalie Bouchard 30:53

Yes. And when everything collapsed uh was over a year ago, I didn't have anything in the center anymore because they were all gone. Like I didn't even have a friend. Uh the man I was with was gone. I didn't even have credit availability because there were big scams in my business, and so everything was frozen. So I had literally access to nothing. All I had was myself. And let me tell you, just having myself got dark. That's how much I didn't want to be with myself. And I remember um being in nature, one thing led to another, and I started remembering how I became a top athlete, remembering how I had created all of these amazing things. It wasn't from a goal, it wasn't from force, it was from acceptance. Can I learn to accept that this is my path and not abandon myself in it? And it wasn't an easy journey, but what happened was I started documenting and documenting and documenting. So it was a lot of trial and error in that dark place. I'm so glad that that collapse happened because otherwise I wouldn't have discovered what I've discovered in it. And that was what it means to stay centered in a wom for women and to not abandon our path and that the path is ours. It is actually a magical path, but our minds convince us that it's not. Our minds convince us that it's it's wrong, something's bad, something needs to be fixed, and it's trying to protect us, but it's not protecting us, it's holding us back from our own evolution.

DanielaSm 32:25

But if you say if if you go if you have gone to a coach, then you have lost yourself. So how do you justify the fact that people should come and talk to you for to get your help?

Natalie Bouchard 32:36

Yeah, and that's a great question, but I'm not a coach. No, I'm here, I'm here to share the wisdom of how to stay and not abandon yourself. Because do you know how to not abandon yourself? Most women don't know how to do that. And so my wisdom is in teaching people how to stay with life and stay with the intelligence and not leave it. I don't want them to follow me. I don't want them to follow my life, I don't want them to even follow any of that. I am just teaching them how to stay with reality, with life, with their path and not abandon it so that their irradiance comes back, the relationships come back, everything comes back naturally. And that's what I want to teach, and that's the wisdom I share. Natalie is saying, don't follow me. I don't know the way, but you do know the way, and let me show you how you do know.

DanielaSm 33:21

People like you and me, I guess that we always want to learn and grow. It seems difficult to stop that. What is the fine line between, okay, yes, you can learn more things, but really you have all the answers.

Natalie Bouchard 33:33

Yeah, like for me, it's like once a woman returns to center, now she has discernment. Once she has discernment, now you are collaborating with all of these wonderful people that have different gifts, different geniuses, different experiences. But most women, that's not what they're doing. We are trying to get relief. We are trying to um find someone that knows something so that we can change our path, change our reality. We're escaping on some level. We're deferring our authority, we're deferring our orientation, we're not connected to our own. Yeah, I'm directing my life. I go to the doctors, I'm directing my body, I'm directing my life, I am collaborating with the doctor on ideas. And a lot of times these ideas are not good ideas. And I'm like, I tell the doctor that is not a good idea. Here's the beautiful thing with the experts or whatever, they love it too because now they're collaborating at a high level now because that you've got them now. But if you are not able to hold reality, you're not growing.

DanielaSm 34:39

But yeah. Okay. Well, that's good. I understood that better, so thank you for that explanation.

Natalie Bouchard 34:44

You're welcome.

DanielaSm 34:45

And Natalie, what about you? You have two daughters. Yeah. What do you tell them now that you know all these?

Natalie Bouchard 34:50

I don't. I I be in who I am being every day is what influences your children, not what you say, not what you tell them. I don't force them. They have their own beliefs. I don't force any of that. They have a different path than I do. I am very transparent though.

Free Three Day Course And Closing

DanielaSm 35:09

So, how do you help people? People contact you and then they book a session with you. How is that? How is your method?

Natalie Bouchard 35:15

Well, what I always suggest, I have a um a free course that I created called Bump It Like It's Hot. Uh, and it walks you from okay, it's triggers, you know, like little things like trigger. So it goes from like either big bumps, because some people have big, big bumps, some people have little bumps, right? How we go from bump to return to center. And then day two, I teach how to return to center. And then day three, I teach you how stays how to stay centered. Because it's one thing, okay, I return to center, but now I'm off center again. You know what I mean? How to stay centered, and then how your authority returns when you stay centered. So it's like three days and it's free. So you get to watch that. And when you watch that, something in you will tell you, okay, wow, yes or no. And that's why I created that. And then if it's a yes, yeah, you get on a call with me and we can actually do a whole like audit of your energy and just everything about where you're off-centered, and I kind of show you that and how it would all work. And so to get on calls with individuals that are looking for me to teach them in their minds, I'm like, no, do the three day because it's it speaks to something deeper in you, and then you can make a choice if you want to learn how to connect to it deeper.

DanielaSm 36:30

Yes. Well, we'll put that all that in the show notes so that people can do those three days. Would you write a book?

Natalie Bouchard 36:37

Um, I have started writing the book. I don't want to do a self-help book. The book that I started writing is a story. The idea is to create a story that people would be like into, but they would actually move through my entire evolution so that they can embrace their evolution.

DanielaSm 36:54

Are we gonna have part two then? Yeah. Absolutely. Why, Natalie, thank you so much for the story for all the lessons and information to reflect. So I appreciate it.

Natalie Bouchard 37:05

Oh, and I appreciate you, and thank you so much for the invite. I'm so glad that we got to have this conversation.

DanielaSm 37:11

Yes, me too. Thank you. Natalie's story reminds us that growth is not always about learning more, fixing more, or becoming more. Sometimes real change is when we need to talk about learning ourselves in difficult moments and learn how to stay with what life is trying to show us. Join me next time for another story conversation. Thank you for listening.